>>
trayvon martin was shot
february 26
, 24 days later there is still no arrest. his mother says she cannot eat or sleep until
zimmerman
is
behind bars
.
al sharpton
is organizing a bill rally tomorrow night at the first
shiloh baptist church
in sanford. he is with us now. thank you for your time. what is the goal tomorrow?
>>
i think we still must press for the arrest of this shooter. this man has not been arrest zd and almost a month now, coming up on a month.
>>
a man that the police have 911 tapes where he says he was pursuing trayvon, and this man claims
self defense
when he was pursuing the victim. here is a man not even registered as a real watch person as you would call.
>>
a self appointed watch man.
>>
self appointed, killed someone, record of assaulting police and still not arrested. the three things we will focus on, the family and i will be there, and others from around the country. immediate arrest and a thourogh investigation of the
police department
. who decided that
self defense
was appropriate? who decided the man should not be arrested? who decided to
drug test
the body of the victim and three days without contacting the family.
>>
these are the questions you're laying out, the same questions that have been asked since you started covering the story, since we did and others, for the past few weeks now. is there a
real progress
being made here? i have to tell you, a lot of people thought by wednesday, by early this week, there would at least be an arrest. arrests don't always result in rj whiches. charges don't always result in convictions, at least at the minimum an arrest.
>>
the fact the
justice department
has come in and announced an investigation and the state prosecutor is more than we had last week, but is that progress? no. the man has not been arrested. the signal sent is this young man's life and therefore all lives are worthless, that you can get away with it which is why we rally.
>>
lester holt
did an interview with the family's attorney. there is a 911 call in which some people believe that you can hear
zimmerman
utter a
racial slur
when referring to trayvon. the attorneys are questioning whether they received an edited version of the i am tape. the attorney says he doesn't know what was said exactly. ebb he believes he heard a slur. they're trying to figure out, if they, meaning the
police department
, edited racial ex me actives from the tape to help mr.
zimmerman
and ex spouse his arguments, a direct quote from the interview with benjamin crump. this is another level you have been talking about, the allegation or at least the perception that there was a coverup here.
>>
there is clearly a lot of questions, and i would say if you look at whether the tape is edited, and you have to remember we got in the case early, and he with first demanded and it took a long time to get the tapes released which adds to the suspicion that maybe somebody was doing something with the 25i7s because it took weeks to agree to release the tape.
>>
we know there were big meetings
behind closed doors
with officials about the tapes themselves.
>>
exactly. if you had the tapes and you hear what you hear, why didn't you arrest him then even if you say that night we didn't know what he said to the 911 caller. after awhile, no arrest.
>>
let me play what trayvon's father said this morning to
matt lauer
reacting to the belief of what he says he heard on that tape. let me play it.
>>
i think he said words that were not comforting to my ear like these people and who are these people.
>>
he was suspicious because he was young, black with a hoody.
>>
people said they enhanced the tape and you have some who believe that they heard the
racial slur
. the
bottom line
, though, regarding evidence if the tape was edited, regardless of what words were there, that would be substantial. that is something that we saw in mississippi, other parts of this country, when police and authorities help in covering up if these allegations are true.
>>
i think that's what is so chilling here, not only about the allegations of the tape but the whole case says we made a lot of progress in this country, but what does it say if we can put an african-american man in the
white house
and we can't walk an african-
american child
to the store to get skittles? i think that is what is really hit a lot of americans saying, wait a minute, we can't stand for this.
>>
we know you will be in florida. we hope you can join us from there live as you will be with the family once again, and also tonight on politics nation reverend al will be joined by trayvon's parents tonight at
6 p.m
.
eastern time
here on msnbc. thank you, sir.
>>
thank you.
>>
bring in
radio talk show
house and contributor
michael
mcconnish. i know you labored over the facts. i am curious to say what people are saying. you talk to a cross-section of folks and the reason i ask that, so many see this as a black issue. this is about a
young boy
, a child, someone's child, and they want answers, so color aside, if this person was unarmed and did not provoke this and all of the things his family says are true, this is about a 17-year-old no matter his color, no matter his gender.
>>
tamron, i have been doing this for a while. i have talked about a lot of cases with racial implications over the year, and i am a accustomed to when the callers break down along racial lines. this is not that case. this case is remarkable for the uniform at this of callers to my program thus far who are black, who are white, who are young, who are old, who are from all different quadrants of the country, and are outraged thus far as to what they know and the lack of an arrest. i really haven't seen anything like it and the piece of audio that you made reference to a moment ago with reverend al, i had my
technical producer
boost the audio. he didn't doctor the tape, but elevate the audio so we could isolate the words and posted it on my website. i have been asking people do you hear it and thus far 88% are saying absolutely, i hear what he is muttering under his breath.
>>
you obviously know being an attorney that is something that perhaps could or could not be used in court if this man is arrested or if eventually he is charged. we have seen
dna evidence
, science challenged, let alone what the
human ear
hears or what a great
defense attorney
can convince you you don't hear. i think you know this,
michael
, as an attorney far better than i. what a lot of attorneys are listening in on is
zimmerman
saying he is still getting out of that vehicle after the
911 operator
said do not, and at the heart of that is who is pursuing? who is the agressor? how did that turn into a
self defense
? regardless of what that word may or may not have been and certainly everybody has an opinion. we hear the operator saying do not pursue.
>>
the legal issue as you well know is whether
zimmerman
was in imminent danger and there are justified to use
lethal force
in this case because of the
stand your ground
law. i maintain you can parse the audio. you can go to that 911 call alone and break it down by its component parts and make a justified argument for his arrest. there are so many
red flags
in that audio. there is such a lack of objective data that he is sharing with the reporter. why really is he giving pursuit? what exactly was tray mart on doing other than looking back at this guy following him and as you point out gets out of the vehicle after he is clearly instructed he should not do so. to me the prosecutor only needs that tape in order to proceed with this case.
>>
let me ask you what role the police would play in convincing the prosecution, for example, as you well know and i talked about it publicly, my own sister was murdered and i remember the police saying to our family, listen, it is a difficult case to bring to the prosecutor. we know that the da wants to be able to take this to the
grand jury
and pursue this. if there is not enough evidence, it makes it difficult for them and thus these kinds of cases sometimes are not taken on and that's why we hear the phrase a person of interest or the case is still open. you know the game. you have been there. how much of an influence would the sanford
police department
be in getting the prosecutor or the d.a. to look at this as a case that at least warrants going to the
grand jury
before they announced it this week?
>>
i think that they would have had a lot of influence but for all of the attention that has now been placed on this case at a local, state and national level, and i have great faith in the rule of law and the
justice system
through the
grand jury
process. this is tailor made for a
grand jury
in my view. i think it is a good use that far device, and i am confident frankly that this guy is going to be charged once the
grand jury
does this investigation. tamron, one other observation. what makes this case difficult and it makes a lot of the
stand your ground
cases difficult, is that tray martin isn't alive to tell us whaptd and the way the law is written, it is to the benefit of he or she who used the
deadly force
. these 21 states including my own that have this on the books should have listened to
law enforcement
. it was
law enforcement
that stood up to the n.r.a. and said we don't need this.
>>
michael
, thank you very much. i greatly appreciate it. i love to hear what people tell on you the radio because you have a cross-section of folks that want their
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